Popping the Liberal Bubble Over Dinner: The Argument for Segregation, Why Whites Shouldn't Try to Help Blacks, and Why Unions Don't Work

Meet Eliot

*Eliot is a 34-year old businessman and philanthropist from Detroit, Michigan who now resides in Atlanta, Georgia. He now frequents New York City and San Francisco on a regular to stay connected with clients for his business strategy consulting firm. He has a wife and daughter living in Atlanta.

We had a lovely opportunity to converse with Eliot over a dinner hosted in Atlanta with Jenn Graham, the founder of Civic Dinners, and her husband, Thomas.

The following are sound bites that may pique your curiosity and challenge your perspective on some touchy topics. We recommend consuming over this food for thought over a good glass of wine.

* Names have been changed to protect the family's privacy.


improving education systems...

It’s too bad Teach for America Fellows are not doing better in New Orleans. There were black teachers who have been teaching in [school district] for 15 years. Then they think it’s a good idea to bring in some 22-year-old straight out of school who can teach better than these teachers. It wasn’t as impactful as they wanted it to be.


On racial discrimination...

Of course! It’s still here. When you look at how people are treated, what they are saying is “Black lives don’t matter.” Obama’s black friend got arrested for entering his own home, and this was a highly affluent neighborhood.


On Unions...

In Connecticut, there was a downsizing of staff in a school district. All of the people on the board of the union were white, so all the white employees were protected. Then all the blacks employees who were actually local were fired.

So what’s the point of the union if all the black people get fired?

This is another reason you can’t have mixed race communities because the white people will protect themselves and leave the black community out of jobs, on the poverty line.


On Segregation...

Segregation works. According to Pew data, the wealthiest black communities came from pre-anti-segregation laws.


On how we can help minority communities thrive...

White people feel they have to help black people out. But then we get offended, because why do you think you need to “help” us? We’re doing just fine. We’re smart, we’re capable, we can figure this out.

We need more black role models and leaders and remove the mindset that black people can’t amount to anything. We need to get them to the point of saying, “I can lead too.”

A Walk Through Campus: A Computer Science Student's Thoughts on Technology, Trump As A Leader, Friends Coming Out as Gay, and the Confederate Flag

Meet DJ

DJ is a student at Auburn University studying Computer Science and Electrical Engineering, amid a campus of students donned nearly uniformly in t-shirts, shorts, tennis shoes, and backpacks carrying athletic gear, under a bright, sunny, and slightly humid spring day.

He was born and raised in Alabama, but hopes to move to California once he graduates. He just hopes he can find a job, hopefully at a technology company. In Auburn, he has a close relationship with his dad, Danny, and they see each other often.

In the last few years, they've driven to San Diego, California to help build houses for Mexican families in need, south of the border. They’re thinking of making it a family tradition, because it’s such fulfilling work to do on their free time.

DJ also has a few differences, some expected and some surprising, that sets him apart from some more liberal-identifying folks his age. He goes to church regularly. He doesn’t have the signs of an oncoming quarter life crisis like so many of his peers. Nor does he pine for things like untold riches, disproportionately sized career successes, nor an unlimited number of dates with beautiful women.

When we spoke with him, DJ was always calm and collected, and had an accepting attitude towards life. As an even-keeled guy, he didn't make a big deal out of himself, nor was he self-deprecating. He took conversation in earnest but wasn't so serious as to give the impression that he can’t take a joke. Overall, he was relaxed and matter-of-fact in the way he explained his answers to our questions, as if we were quizzing him on his knowledge of an emotionally neutral topic, like technology or history.

We admire his straight shooting attitude and contentment towards life and we hope you will too.

What’s it like living here (on campus)?

It’s great. There’s everything you need here. My dorm room was supposed to be a double but they didn’t have anyone take the other bed so I have the place to myself.

I go to classes, the dining halls, the gym, and hang out with my group [of friends]. There's four of us.

We know each other from kindergarten in Auburn, the three of us, our parents all know each other, we used to go to each other's houses all the time. And the fourth guy, he joined us in freshman year, he's from South Korea but his parents now know our parents.


Thoughts on Technology

As a computer science and engineering student, what are you looking forward to seeing happen in technology?

I really like what Elon Musk is doing with the idea of AI (artificial intelligence) and autonomous vehicles (self-driving cars). The one thing is it probably won't work with large trucks around the more rural parts, because it's a lot more difficult to control high mass vehicles. 

Trump As A Leader

How do you feel about Trump and his stance on women and minorities?

I don’t agree with it, that women or any minorities should be treated any differently than anyone else, but...my dad and I, we respect his position.

What do you admire about Trump as a leader?

Because he says what he's going to do and he does it? He worked hard to build his company. So he earned it, and he deserves the power he has now. Even though I don’t agree with everything he says, he’s going to be our leader and that’s okay, we accept it as it is. He’s not perfect, but no one is. 

The Confederate Flag

There’s a confederate flag hanging here...what does it stand for to you?

It was taken down in South Carolina, which was not good for us. We don’t fly it outside our house anymore. It used to be hanging out and now there’s a lot of negativity around it, because people think it’s about racism. 

What does it really mean?

It’s not about racism, it’s about traditional culture, just like the Civil War was about the economy and a way of life.

Friends Coming Out As Gay 

I understand suicide and depression is a likelihood. But if there’s a chance we can save his soul, then we’ll do that. It’s much better than letting him go down the wrong path. It’s not that we don’t see him as a person anymore. We don’t judge him for it, but eventually he’s going to have to get on the right path. For example, if a friend was doing drugs, we wouldn’t judge him, but we would try to get him to stop doing drugs, because it could harm him. 

If one of your close friends came out as gay, how would you feel about it?

It would be wrong. I don’t know what else to say about this. It’s not right. 

Even if he were your best friend?


What would you do with your friend if he’s gay?

We [his group of close friends] would definitely do an intervention and try to set him on the right path.

There's no other way.

What makes you think it’s wrong?

Because it’s in the Bible. You can’t, you know, it’s evolution - we can’t reproduce otherwise.


Thoughts on Life and the Future

Is there anything that worries you?

Last year my dad had to go in for heart surgery. We were waiting once he finished and got out of the ER. We were too worried though. If he had died, God would have taken care of him from there, and it would have been out of our hands. And he said afterwards he would have been fine if he had died. He didn't have any regrets or anything.

Anything else?

Other than my dad, I don't know...not worried about much. I'm pretty happy with life. I know everything is a process. Like I want to move to San Diego. But that's only once I finish school. So it just takes time. Things are pretty good.

Left to right: DJ, Janet, Evadora, Karl. Outside Auburn University's Samford Hall.

Left to right: DJ, Janet, Evadora, Karl. Outside Auburn University's Samford Hall.

Trump supporters - "Stupid SOB's"

Rick, an honest, passionate man who voted for Trump, used to think Trump supporters were "stupid SOBs." Rick was involved in politics himself in previous years, as well as the president of NRA Oklahoma. Now, he's an avid hunter who sells guns, breeds cattle & chickens, and lives a happy, simple, and fulfilled life with his family on a gorgeous land in Cordell, Oklahoma.

Woman harassed at Berkeley rally

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